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Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 4" Drop Spindle Only - 3,500 lbs

Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 4" Drop Spindle Only - 3,500 lbs

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The Axle-Less system provides a smooth, quiet, safe ride and can eliminate the need for an axle. Suspension units replace your existing axle and operate independently. The 4" drop spindle allows for a low deck height. Fits any frame width. Lowest Prices for the best trailer axles from Timbren. Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 4" Drop Spindle Only - 3,500 lbs part number ASR3500S04 can be ordered online at etrailer.com or call 1-800-940-8924 for expert service.
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Timbren Trailer Axles - ASR3500S04

  • 3500 lbs
  • Universal Fit
  • Rubber Spring Suspension
  • Spindles Only
  • No Hubs
  • Timbren
  • Easy Lube Spindles

The Axle-Less system provides a smooth, quiet, safe ride and can eliminate the need for an axle. Suspension units replace your existing axle and operate independently. The 4" drop spindle allows for a low deck height. Fits any frame width.


Features:

  • Suspension system provides a safe, smooth, quiet ride for your trailer
    • 2 Separate units replace your existing axle
  • AEON progressive-rate main springs absorb road shock and support trailer's load
    • Deliver a smooth, stable ride, regardless of load size
    • Compress and become stiffer as load increases, boosting spring strength
  • Rebound springs act as return devices to minimize rattle and bottoming out
    • Create constant pressure on the arm, so the suspension is never completely relaxed
  • 2 Independent units can eliminate the need for a thru axle
    • Increase ground clearance
    • Lower deck height for easier loading and unloading
    • Reduce roll during cornering
    • Fit any trailer width
  • Built-in camber and toe-in help your trailer to track straight, reducing wear on the tires
  • 4" Drop, EZ Lube spindles accept trailer hubs (sold separately)
    • 4" Drop provides lower ground clearance
    • Spindles can be easily removed from units for simple replacement if damaged
  • Heavy-duty steel construction with black powder coat finish resists wear and corrosion
  • Easy to install and align
    • Bolt or weld to your trailer's frame


Specs:

  • Fits: 1-axle and 2-axle trailers that use regular tires
    • Not recommended for triple-axle applications
  • Weight capacity: 3,500 lbs
  • Quantity: 2 suspension units without hubs
    • Works with Dexter 1,750-lb hubs (84545UC1-EZ)
  • Spindle/Hub compatibility:
    • Bearings: L68149 inner, L44649 outer
    • Races: L68111 inner, L44610 outer
    • Seal: 10-19
  • 3-Year limited warranty


Note: The Timbren Axle-Less suspension system may require additional support on your trailer. If your trailer does not have a crossmember above the spot where you want to install the Timbren system, you may need to reinforce the frame. You can accomplish this three ways. First, you can retrofit the trailer with a crossmember. Second, you can build out the trailer frame. Third, you can use standard, 2-inch steel tubing to connect the 2 Timbren suspensions together using the built-in square hole on each unit.


Ground Clearance

Ride on rubber with Timbren's Axle-Less trailer suspension system. This one-of-a-kind suspension consists of two separate units, each containing rugged steel arms and two strong, hollow rubber springs. Overall, the system safely and effectively absorbs road shock, minimizes trailer bounce and rattle - regardless of load size - and helps to protect your trailer's components and cargo. Built-in camber and toe-in keep your trailer tracking straight to minimize tire wear. Integrated hangers attach to your trailer's frame. And 2-inch holes make it easy to reinforce your trailer's frame by adding standard, 2-inch-square steel tubing (if needed).


The Axle-Less independent suspension system replaces your trailer's existing leaf spring suspension and can eliminate the need for an axle. The independent action of the suspension reduces roll when your trailer is cornering and allows you to maximize ground clearance and minimize deck height. Your trailer can have the same side-to-side clearance as your tow vehicle. And the low deck height makes it easy to load cargo from either the rear or the side.


Because you're riding on rubber, your trailer will ride smoothly and comfortably, whether you're navigating rocky terrain or highway asphalt.


Timbren Axle-Less Suspension Parts

Components

  1. The AEON progressive-rate main spring supports the weight of your trailer and cargo and easily absorbs road shock. It is constructed of heavy-duty, hollow rubber.
  2. The rebound spring minimizes trailer bounce, rattle and bottoming out. It keeps the suspension under constant tension and ensures that the main spring compresses and expands in a controlled fashion. And it delivers a smooth, stable ride - regardless of how much cargo is on the trailer.
  3. The trailing arm and integrated hanger attach the suspension to the side and bottom of the trailer frame.
  4. The control arm carries the spindle and the hub. It pivots on strong, long-lasting urethane bushings that never require lubrication.
  5. The EZ lube, 4" drop spindle (straight model shown) is simple to grease. If damaged, it can be removed and replaced, saving you both time and money.
  6. The hub is not included with this model.
  7. The built-in square hole accepts standard 2-inch tubing. If there is no crossmember above the suspension, you can easily add support to your trailer's frame by inserting 2-inch steel tubing through the hole on each suspension unit and then bolting the tubing into place.

Timbren Axle-Less Suspension versus Leaf Springs

Leaf Spring Example

The Axle-Less suspension's progressive spring is a definitive upgrade over leaf springs. Although leaf springs deliver a stable ride when supporting a load, a trailer with leaf springs will bounce and rattle when it's empty or supporting a light or off-center load. On the other hand, your trailer can bottom out on bumpy roads if the load is too heavy. The AEON progressive-rate springs of the Axle-Less suspension always deliver the same reliable performance, no matter the load size. As more weight is added to the trailer, the springs compress and become stiffer, offering more support for heavy loads. And because they rebound more slowly than leaf springs, the AEON springs do a better job of absorbing road shock, thereby keeping your trailer from bouncing and rattling when you're carrying a light load. So with this versatile system you will enjoy a smooth ride whether you're towing an empty trailer or a hefty load.


Unlike leaf springs, Timbren's Axle-Less suspension units operate independently of one another. Each spring activates only when needed. This reduces roll and delivers top-notch performance, even when you're hauling off-center loads. When your trailer with leaf springs takes a turn, one side of the suspension compresses and takes on more weight, and the other side becomes looser and bounces. This causes rattle and can make the trailer lean to one side. But when your trailer with the Axle-Less suspension takes a turn, one side compresses and becomes more rigid to absorb the weight, and the other side expands to normal height to help steady the load and minimize bounce and rattle. The load stays better balanced, even if it is off-center.


Timbren Axle-Less Suspension versus Torsion Axles

Torsion Axle Example

Timbren's Axle-Less trailer suspension system is a great alternative to torsion axles. While both systems allow either side of the trailer's suspension to operate independently, only Axle-Less suspensions are actually separate units. Torsion axles still require a bar that spans the bottom of your trailer, whereas Timbren's system can eliminate the need for a thru axle - giving you the same amount of ground clearance from the front of your trailer to the rear. It also allows Axle-Less suspensions to fit any trailer width - unlike torsion axles, which have to be fitted to an exact frame width.


Axle-Less suspensions operate in a smoother, less stressful manner than torsion axles. Torsion axles use a twisting motion, where the bar inside the axle tube rolls against rubber cords or a rubber wall to create compression and resistance. The up-and-down motion of the main spring and the side-to-side motion of the rebound spring in Timbren's Axle-Less suspension work together to provide smooth, consistent compression - with no twisting - that results in a better ride and less stress on the suspension's components.


Installing the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension

Whether you are building a trailer or retrofitting your existing trailer with the Axle-Less system, you must make certain that the trailer's frame is both perfectly square and sturdy enough to support a heavy load without the aid of a thru axle.


Install Option 1

There are three ways to install the Axle-Less suspension. The easiest method, which is recommended if you are replacing axles on your trailer, is to install a piece of 2-inch-square tubing (sold separately - available at most weld shops) through the integrated hole in the Axle-Less suspension. Then all you need to do is bolt the suspension to the side of the trailer's frame with three bolts (not included).


Install Option 2

The second option for installation is to fabricate an inboard extension plate that attaches the trailer's frame to the Axle-Less suspension.


Install Option 3

The third method of installation is to bolt the Axle-Less suspension's hanger to the trailer's frame and to an existing crossmember that is in the area where you want to install the suspension.


With both the second and third options, you must use three bolts to attach the suspension to the side of the frame. And you also have to use two or three bolts to attach the suspension to the bottom of the frame extension, or crossmember. Both the second and third methods of installation will eliminate the need for a thru axle and provide the most clearance.


Measuring Diagram

Timbren's Axle-Less suspension units should be installed directly across from one another. Before mounting the units, measure back from the coupler and mark the frame to make sure that the two distance measurements (A and B) are within 1/8 inch of each other. Then you can drill holes through the frame and attach the hangers with Grade-5, half-inch bolts (not included).


Dimensions of the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension

The following diagrams show measurements that were taken with electric drum brakes installed on the Timbren Axle-less suspension system.


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ASR3500S04 Axleless Trailer Suspension System by Timbren - 4" Drop Spindle - Without Hubs - Regular Tires - 3500 lbs

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Customer Reviews

Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 4" Drop Spindle Only - 3,500 lbs - ASR3500S04

Average Customer Rating:  4.7 out of 5 stars   (208 Customer Reviews)

The Axle-Less system provides a smooth, quiet, safe ride and can eliminate the need for an axle. Suspension units replace your existing axle and operate independently. The 4" drop spindle allows for a low deck height. Fits any frame width.

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Very nice quality, I had to call Timbren with a question very good company to deal with and etrailer is a first class company very good customer service.



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My trailer is an enclosed race car carrier originally built with dual axles and leaf springs. The maximum weight of the trailer and load would be about 5,000lb.

This Timbren product is well engineered, well constructed and does what it is designed to do. Much better system than the dual axle, leaf spring set up.

Installation may me a bit more complicated than the videos or supplied directions indicate. Look at the videos and directions and your trailer and plan ahead. Take measurements, decide on how to reinforce the frame and buy high quality hardware if you plan on bolting everything together.

This Timbren product would be a great choice if you were building a trailer from scratch. Choosing to convert an existing trailer suspension is a more complicated choice. For me it was worth the effort.





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Packaging very good and shipping fast.
Excellent
communication and shipment was tracked by company representative.



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Product looks great. I had to some leg work to get shipping moved along but otherwise satisfied.



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The trailer rides great down the road and no more worries about saltwater and rusty leaf springs. Not a cheap option but I’m very happy with the setup. When installing, just be sure to measure accurately and have sharp drill bits. A drill press type of guide also helps ensure correct drilling angles. The first picture is of a mounting gusset a local welding shop made. One is needed for each side and necessary to provide needed mounting strength-at least on my trailer frame. Pics 2 and 3 show the mounted suspension on one side of the trailer. Pic 4 shows the suspension on one side of the trailer with the axle attached and a separately purchased disc brake assembly mounted on it. Finally, pic 5 shows a 2” box channel between both suspension assemblies. Independent suspensions would have been nice, but I wanted to ensure trailer rigidity was maintained. So, after one year, so far, so good. It’s all smooth sailing down the highway.


Comments
Actually over a year, and still working great.
dale - 04/22/2022

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Trailer suspension and disk brake performance is outstanding big big difference over leaf spring and electric drum brakes.
Installation required modifications to the frame to monut the timbren suspension


Comments
The Timbren axle less suspension and Disk brake and disk brake controller system is still work great. will never go back to drum brakes or leaf spring axle suspension.
Quintin - 01/06/2022

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Needed a suspension system that I could make a low profile kayak trailer, that would fit in a specific area next to my garage. These were excellent that I could make the trailer any width I wanted. Easy to install and well made.



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They have more pros than cons, but the second set I bought broke the flat plate that holds the spindle at about 8 months. The steel quality seemed less than I would expect since it basically peeled it back like a pop can as you can see in the pictures. Otherwise I like the clearance and ride. They last 2-3 years where the torsion axles I replaced would wear out in 4 months after driving down rough gravel roads. There is a grade zerk on the underside which I didn't realize until I bought the second set. That would have helped the first set last longer had I known about it.


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The Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension - 4 Spindle w Brake Flange - Regular Tires - 7K Part # TASR7KS02 has a 3-year limited warranty. I will have Customer Service reach out to you.
-- Etrailer Expert Thomas M - 12/22/2021

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I used these axles in a different way than most would. I needed a trailer that was small, could handle tight switch-backs, carry 600 lbs and be light. I had this idea and as a retired design engineer I saw a great possibility in this axle. I have made four of these trailers now, one as a camp trailer, 2 for trail work for State Parks and one as a utility trailer.


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Really cool work!
-- Etrailer Expert Sierra K - 07/07/2021

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Very exicited about these axels, I have been eyeing these for over a year. (Excellent service from etrailer, they had my parts to me in 1 day from the time of placing the order.) These axles seem to be well made and fit nicely with the Dexter hub and drum assembly and the 12" electric brake kit. I installed this all on a M1101/M1102 trailer frame after removing the factory axel assembly. I have not ran these on the road or off as of yet but will give another review at that time. The fit and finish are great and the packaging was good, a little banged up from shipping (missing 1 washer)



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I am not a mechanic so Brandi was real helpful. Had to get some professional help to remove the old suspension and install the new suspension. The only drawback we ran into was the spindle did not extend out far enough to mount the tires in the normal way. We had to put the tires on backwards. It all worked out beautifully. Towed the trailer for over 1700 miles without any problems. Brandi was delightful to talk with and very patient with me. Her help was most appreciated. Sorry, I didn't take any pictures.


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good
R C - 12/19/2021

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I installed these on my single axle travel trailer to replace the axle and leaf springs. Weight savings was a wash with the required steel tube for added stability. I installed on an I-Beam using aluminum plate as a spacer. It took my friend and I 3 days to install everything. The hardest part was rerouting my black pipe propane line. I also had to install it just back of center due to a steel cross beam being in the way of the middle bolt hole. I replaced the brakes and hubs as well as the wheels to match the new hubs.

Overall we've been super happy with this upgrade. The trailer rides a lot smoother. I'm not finding random screws on the floor after a long bump ride.

We decided to do this after our leaf spring broke 2 times, 12k miles between. We were done dealing with a subpar suspension. I probably would not recommend doing this if your leaf springs are working for you. We put a lot of miles on our trailer. We aren't weekend campers.



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Purchased 2 sets of the Timbren 1200 Axle-less systems for upgrading the suspension on an older 30' ft glider trailer. Single axle with small (13") tires made towing tough due to porpoising, dragging on drive entrances do to poor flotation; also German made and metric, no repair parts. GVW 2000 lbs equated to bouncy ride.

Dual sets now allow the trailer to ride over bumps and sharp inclines easily, smoothly, little bounce on country roads; porpoising is history. My glider now rides securely, safely, quietly.

Install time 4 1/2 hours (includes head-scratching). Results are outstanding, units are totally solid. Recommend the square tube interconnect, easy and quick - trailer frame was on the light side, so a precautionary fix. Clean look underneath.

Ordered 5 wheels w/tires, very nice.

Helpful neighbor so impressed he ordered a HD single set for his new DIY snowmobile trailer.

Customer satisfaction 100%, from phone order, online support, product information, immediate shipping, install instructions, followup... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!


Comments
I have just a little more to add regarding my purchase: Two sets, of the Timbren Axle-less assemblies, 1200 lb, and 5 wheels. I placed the order via phone, and whoever was on-call that day provided great answers and recommendations regarding the units, wheels and tires. At 31 feet, the trailer originally exhibited amplified porpoising on any bumps or dips in the road. Also bouncing and occasional sideways tipping due to the single axle. It made a lot of noise on my mountain community washboards. I speculated that the Timbren units would solve most, if not all of these problems and they have. Installation on my older 31 ft European ie, metric and no longer manufactured glider trailer was a mere 4.5 hours from removal of the old single axle to setting the trailer back down on its new assemblies. Instructions are complete, precise, useful and helpful. Appreciated. Little to comment on as installation was all straight-forward. I would like to describe the maiden voyage to the airport and back, but there is nothing to tell, other than it towed beautifully proper alignment instructions, and all that I viewed from the rear view mirror looked like a magic carpet ride. It rides over washboards and pot holes like a marathon hurdler, the 4-wheel independent suspension is great. Packaging: the shipping boxes all arrived in good condition, but the cardboard component boxes inside them... not so much. Most were ripped and open due to heavy components lightly surrounded with brown packing paper, just token amounts. Parts: all was accounted for minus a pair of spindle axle washers for one set, easily replaced at the local farm and ranch supply. No squawk, just an fyi. I am very pleased with your product and support, and was happy to leave a 5-star review with photos. The upgraded suspension was also a topic this past weekend at the glider port by those who regularly trailer their ships to various soaring events, some as far as a thousand miles away. My compliments to eTrailers, hope you can use my info,
-- comment by: Kelly F - 11/28/2018


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Pleased with ETRAILER, will order here again. Not as happy with the torsion axle setup. 2 inch square opening for tying both axles together with your own 2" square tubing are not shaped to match 2x2x1/8 tubing. Grinding and welding of tubing required to make it fit. Also found the overslung stub axle left the end of the pivot arm without much ground clearance though the unit was intended and spec'd for atv tire off road use. A pivot arm with mounting pads top and bottom would be better and allow the user to choose high or low clearance use. I found the units were perfectly suited to offroad use once I fabricated new mounting pads and welded them to the bottom of the arms.


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After a year of off road use, I couldnt be happier. My trailer rides smooth loaded or unloaded. No of that bunny hopp with leaf springs or rigid mount axles. The small rebound control snubber works perfectly! I modified my components for high clearance but the concept is sound, they work well. Great job Timbren!
Doug F - 06/22/2017


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I rebuilt a 4 x 8 trailer using the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension and it works great. I would recommend it to others.


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Working out just fine.
David J - 09/25/2020

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Timbren saved our RV road trip! The leafs on the axle on our 2018 Jayco TT came apart while driving in Maryland. We tried going to the manufacturer, but they were useless. Going to a RV mechanic meant being grounded for at least 2 months. Then we found Timbren. With the help of Timbren's excellent staff we purchased axle-less system through etrailer, who made sure we got as quick as possible. It came ahead of schedule, my husband installed the Timbren system and we were back on the road! The axle-less system is better than the original manufacturers. If you plan on taking your RV or TT farther than 100 miles GET THIS INSTALLED and get it through etrailer.



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A must have suspension if you're building an off-road trailer!


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Its been a year and this suspension is still doing great!
David R - 09/27/2021

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This is as close to a bulletproof suspension as they come. We use this suspension on all of our VORSHEER XOC trailers. They have performed flawlessly as an off-road suspension.



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These units install easily, are well made, and perform great! The trailer doesn't bounce around like you see a lot of trailers do while traveling down a bumpy road. I traveled some unpaved roads with no issues. I am certainly glad I went axleless. I installed with 15" tires. Problem is I didn't go big enough.

I intended to install on an existing trailer that I had. Changed my mind and built a new trailer. The new trailer came in heavier than I had planned. 2k pound capacity is now too small. I have to watch what I load the trailer with so I don't over load the suspension. I intend on buying the 3500 pound units when I have the money.



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The order came in on time and the customer service at etrailer.com (Ashley) and Sean from Tmbren was outstanding. They both were very helpful in my choosing the right product for my needs. The axle less suspension's performance is absolutely superb. It vastly improves ride quality. I am using it on a teardrop camper that often goes on gravel roads and the raddling sound from the leaf axles was horrible. A couple of points to consider before you settle on the axle less suspension: keep in mind that you will lose some hight of the trailer. While you will gain clearance from the lack of the axle, the suspension will make the trailer sit lower than before.i had to lower my hitch by an inch to maintain the trailer leveled. Also it does appear to compress at higher rate than the leaf springs, which makes it softer but easier to reach it's limit. Overall this product is absolutely a must if you are looking to improve the safety and the quality of your towing.



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enclosed are pics of trailer and spindle units. I was very happy with the end result,
lowering ez loader trailer 8 inches for hovercraft. the spindle units were well made,
very strong but had some weld repairs as pictures show.i could not set the needed
adjustments till I cleaned up the units with a stone and file. also please improve the
packaging . these heavy units need something better than cardboard for shipping.
they were dislodged from Styrofoam and partially poked holes thru cardboard. but
fortunately no damage there. again im happy with the installation.thank you!!!



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We use Timbren's ASR3500S06 on all of our XER trailers. We couldn't be happier. It is a well built suspension.



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After a great deal of research, I ultimately chose the Timbren long arm kit to replace the torsion axle under my teardrop trailer. My initial impression is that there is simply no comparison between the two. It now rides better, pulls better and handles better than I could have imagined. The Timbren axle system is incredibly well built and is much more confidence-inspiring. While the spring rate closely matches my trailer weight, the components are much more rugged and robust. The spindles, bearings and brakes are rated at double the capacity of my old axle which gives me great peace of mind. I pull my trailer, both on and off road, anywhere it will fit and the long travel and heavier components are a game-changer for my travels. Installation, while requiring a bit of forethought, was otherwise straightforward and methodical. Documentation available from etrailer and Timbren, is second to none. Instructions were clear and concise with drawings and detail taking the major guesswork out of the equation. Even though, due to the odd frame design of my trailer that required a bit of work to adapt, I ended up making some frame stiffeners, the adaptation was as simple as it could possibly be. I've ordered from etrailer in the past and they were 100% accurate on this order as well. I ordered the Timbren kit without backing plates and hubs due to the requirements of my trailer and etrailer suggested, explained availability and supplied all of the components I needed. They truly a stress-less bunch of folks with an extraordinary website. I'll no doubt turn to them again...



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This suspension system did EXACTLY what I wanted. I replaced the leaf springs, axle/hubs on my small trailer. The new suspension improved the capacity, lowered the bed 4+inches, improved ground clearance and allowed me to rebalance the trailer all WITHOUT having to have any welding done. Everything needs to be measured very exactly and the alignment technique is fairly cumbersome and takes a bit of time. In the end, I have a quiet, steady, strong, low riding trailer. What more could you ask for



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Best suspension you can get for off-road trailers. We use this suspension on all of our VORSHEER XER trailers.


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  • Determining if Installing Timbren Axle-Less System Will Change Trailer Ride Height
    The Timbren Axle-Less Systems come in a variety of different spindle designs that may allow you to increase, decrease, or simply maintain your trailer's current ride height. The Timbren 3,500 Pound # ASR3500S04 that you were looking at features 4 inch drop spindles which would lower the ground clearance on the trailer. It's hard to say how much this would differ from your current setup since it depends on exactly what kind of torsion axles you have, but I can tell you that this system...
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  • Availability of Lift and Drop Versions of Timbren 3,500 lb Axle Less System
    We do have the 3,500 lb Timbren Axle Less kits in a few different variations. I attached a link to a page that has all of them listed but for a 4 inch lift for off-road (wider) tires we have the part # ASR35HDS02, 4 inch lift for standard tires part # ASR3500S06. For a 4 inch drop like you mentioned we have the part # ASR3500S04. Current pricing is available below at the product links.
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  • Can Kodiak Disc Brakes be Added to 3,500 Pound Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System
    The Timbren axle-less system # ASR3500S04 using 10-19 seals, # RG06-050. All of the Kodiak disc brake kits for 3,500 pound axles use this same seal so you will be able to use the brakes on the Timbren axle-less system. Assuming the combined weight of the boat and trailer is under 3,500 pounds then the axle-less system will work fine. To get some idea of the weight you can take the boat and trailer (as it is now) and weigh it at a truck scale or a place that sells bulk gravel might be able...
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  • What Options Are Available To Lower The Ride Height Of A Trailer?
    Depending on how much you are looking to lower your trailer there are a few possible options. One option is to replace the ST205/75D15 tires currently on your trailer with the Westlake ST205/75R14 Radial Trailer Tire w/ 14" Silver Mod Wheel - 5 on 4-1/2 - Load Range D # 274-000053 which are about 1.5" shorter overall. Another option is to replace your axles with something Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System - 4" Drop Spindle Only - 3,500 lbs # ASR3500S04 which has a 4" drop spindle....
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  • Compatibility of Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System # ASR3500S04 With Existing Trailer Brakes
    The brake flanges installed on the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # ASR3500S04 are standard 4-bolt types that are quite common. You can check your electric brake assemblies to confirm they use the same mounting bolt pattern. If they fit and still have plenty of life left in them then you're fine to re-install them on the Timbrens. You also need to confirm the bearings used in your existing hubs to ensure your hubs' compatibility with the spindles in this kit. If your current...
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  • Does 4 inch Drop For Timbren Axle Less Systems Mean the Trailer will Sit Closer to Ground
    The Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # ASR3500S04 has a 4 inch drop built into it so that it would sit 4 inches lower than a straight spindle setup like the part # TASR7KS01 that you referenced. The trailer will end up sitting 4 inches closer to the ground.
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  • Correct Hub with Timbren Axle Less Suspension ASR3500S04
    I checked your order notes and the Timbren Axle Less Kit part # ASR3500S04 that you referenced is compatible with the hub you bought as well part # 84545UC1-EZ. The Timbren kit has 3,500 lb axle spindles which is the exact same as what the hub you bought is designed to fit. You might make sure that the hub is fully seated all the way onto the spindle and see if that allows seal to fit the spindle better.
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  • Recommended Disc Brakes for Timbren Axle-Less Suspension Systems
    Disc brakes can be used with the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension systems, however, Timbren does not offer an axle-less suspension kit with disc brakes. If you want to use disc brakes, I recommend buying the Axle-Less Suspension System - 3,500 lbs, # ASR3500S04, which you reference, along with the Kodiak Disc Brake Kit - 3,500 lbs, # K2HR35D. Buying the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension system without the hub and buying the disc brakes separately will save you money over buying a kit that includes...
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  • Adding Axle-Less Suspension System on a 1979 Avion Travel Trailer With Existing Axles
    In order to potentially add a Timbren Axle-Less suspension system to your 1979 Avion travel trailer, there are few things to consider: Adding an Axle-Less system will most likely require extensive modification of your trailer and re-aligning of your current axles. The reason you will need to modify your travel trailer is because the wheel well is not large enough to accommodate a third axle. It's also necessary to re-align your axles because the center point of the axles will change from...
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  • Replacing Torsion Axle with Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System on Boat Trailer
    You can definitely replace the torsion axle on your trailer with a Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System like the 3,500 pound # ASR3500S04 referenced in your question. Since you will be replacing your axle, the easiest way to install this system will be to install a piece of 2-inch-square tubing through the integrated hole in the Axle-Less suspension. Then you will just need to bolt the suspension to the side of the trailer's frame with three bolts. You will just need to make sure...
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  • Replacement 3500 Pound Axle for Basstracker V17 Boat Trailer
    The closest axle we have to fit your measurements is the Dexter Axle # T3584F-EZ-8974. This has a hub face of 89 inches, spring center of 74 inches, 3500 pound capacity and EZ-Lube Spindles. It is not a drop axle like yours is currently. To gain the drop you can use the Timbren Axle-Less System with 4 inch Drop # ASR3500S04. The axle-less systems provide a suspension without the traditional cross tube axle.
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  • EZ Loader 3,500 Trailer Axle Replacement
    For your 2001 EZ Loader boat trailer, the axle is 3,500 lbs capacity. Your photo looks like you have a drop axle with the traditional brake assembly mounting to allow you to keep your current brake assemblies and hubs. The information I am missing is the hub to hub face dimension and the spring seat dimension on center. Without that information I can't give you a specific fit for a thru axle. I have linked the page to all your options to assist. If you want to replace your current...
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  • Hubs with 5 on 5 Bolt Pattern that Will Fit a Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System
    There are Timbren axle-less suspension systems that do not come with hubs so that you could add your own such as # AKIHUB-550-35-EZ-K. But the hubs with 5 on 5 bolt patterns that would also fit a Timbren system only accept up to 15 inch wheels. The other issue is that vehicle wheels are not meant to be used on trailers and often have an offset (mounting surface of wheel not in the dead center of the wheel) whereas most trailers take wheels with a zero offset. With that said the hub listed...
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  • 2,000 lb Timbren Heavy-Duty Axle-Less Trailer Suspension With 5 on 5 Inch Bolt Pattern
    There isn't a 5 on 5" hub that comes together with the Timbren Heavy-Duty Axle-Less Trailer Suspension # ASR2KHDS05, so you will need to get the system and hubs separately. What you will need are: - Timbren Heavy-Duty Axle-Less Trailer Suspension - 4" Drop Spindle - Regular Tires - 2,000 lbs # ASR2KHDS05 - Trailer Idler Hub Assembly for 3,500-lb E-Z Lube Axles - 5 on 5" # AKIHUB-550-35-EZ-K Since the Timbrens use E-Z Lube spindles you will want to use the E-Z Lube hubs. I have added links...
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  • What Replacement Dexter Axle And Hub Do I Need
    I am able to get you setup with something that will work for you. Based on my research and after speaking with a representative from Dexter I was able to get some information about your existing axle. The specs for your axle are as follows: rated for 3,500 lbs hub face length of 85" 4" drop spindle spring center 70". We do not offer a direct replacement for this axle. The Dexter axle that is closest to what you need is the Dexter Trailer Axle Beam w/ Idler Hubs - 4" Drop - E-Z Lube -...
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  • Can Timbren Axle Less System Be Used on I Beam Trailer and with Disc Brakes
    Triple axle trailer scrub tires pretty hard around corners which can put quite a bit of lateral force on the sides of the axle assemblies. The Timbren axles just are not rated to withstand that amount of force in that direction. Installation of a Timren Axle Less like part # ASR3500S04 on I-Beam trailer frames is possible but will require you to basically box off the open end of the frame where the system will install so that it has something to install on. Disc brakes can be used with...
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  • Recommended Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System For Damaged 3,500 LB Trailer Torsion Axle
    I recommend sticking with a 3500lb rated system like the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # ASR3500S05. By using the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # TASR5200S03 you will not actually increase the capacity of your trailer since it was built and designed for 3,500lbs. The heavier springs will lead to a stiffer ride for the cargo on the trailer as well and you will notice a lot more bounce when empty. The Timbren # ASR3500S05 will have a straight spindle and will...
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